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Phidias Propfirm vs The5ers
How Phidias Propfirm and The5ers compare on price, drawdown, daily loss limits, payouts and reputation. Every figure is checked against each firm's own site, and prices are list prices before any discount code.
| Trust score | 29 / 100 | 77 / 100 |
| Trustpilot | No score | 4.7 from 40,039 reviews |
| Trading futures since | 2023 | 2025 |
| Accounts | 20 across 3 account types | 4 across 2 account types |
| Sizes | $25K to $150K | $25K to $50K |
| One-time price | $88 to $1,125 | $59 to $120 |
| Monthly price | $164 a month to $570 a month | - |
| Profit split | 80% to 100% | 80% |
| Drawdown types | Static, EOD Trailing | EOD Trailing |
| Accounts with no daily loss limit | 20 of 20 | 4 of 4 |
| Instant funding | No | No |
| News trading allowed | 20 of 20 funded accounts | 4 of 4 funded accounts |
| Platforms | Rithmic, Tradovate, DeepCharts, NinjaTrader, TradingView | BlackArrow |
| Restricted countries | 59 | 31 |
Every Phidias Propfirm account
| Account | Price | Target | Max loss | Ratio | Drawdown | Daily limit | Consistency | Split | Max payout | Activation | News | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Express to Live$25K Phidias Propfirm Evaluation (activation fee on pass) | $88$44 | $1,500 | $500 | 3.00:1 | Static | None | None | 80% | $1,000 | $83 | Allowed | |
Fundamental$50K Phidias Propfirm Evaluation (activation fee on pass) | $164/mo$66/mo | $4,000 | $2,500 | 1.60:1 | EOD | None | None | 80% | $2,000 | $149 | Allowed | |
Fundamental$100K Phidias Propfirm Evaluation (activation fee on pass) | $273/mo$109/mo | $6,000 | $3,000 | 2.00:1 | EOD | None | None | 80% | $2,500 | $149 | Allowed | |
Express to Live$25K Phidias Propfirm One-Time Payment (no activation fee) | $277$69 | $1,500 | $500 | 3.00:1 | Static | None | None | 80% | $1,000 | $0 | Allowed | |
Express to Live$50K Phidias Propfirm Evaluation (activation fee on pass) | $278$139 | $2,500 | $650 | 3.85:1 | Static | None | None | 80% | $2,000 | $149 | Allowed | |
Express to Live$100K Phidias Propfirm Evaluation (activation fee on pass) | $318$137 | $3,500 | $800 | 4.38:1 | Static | None | None | 80% | $3,000 | $149 | Allowed | |
Premium$50K Phidias Propfirm Evaluation (activation fee on pass) | $329/mo$132/mo | $4,000 | $2,500 | 1.60:1 | EOD | None | None | 100% | $2,000 | $149 | Allowed | |
Express to Live$150K Phidias Propfirm Evaluation (activation fee on pass) | $398$199 | $4,500 | $1,000 | 4.50:1 | Static | None | None | 80% | $4,500 | $169 | Allowed | |
Premium$100K Phidias Propfirm Evaluation (activation fee on pass) | $411/mo$164/mo | $6,000 | $3,000 | 2.00:1 | EOD | None | None | 100% | $2,500 | $149 | Allowed | |
Fundamental$150K Phidias Propfirm Evaluation (activation fee on pass) | $420/mo$168/mo | $9,000 | $4,500 | 2.00:1 | EOD | None | None | 80% | $2,750 | $169 | Allowed | |
Premium$150K Phidias Propfirm Evaluation (activation fee on pass) | $570/mo$285/mo | $9,000 | $4,500 | 2.00:1 | EOD | None | None | 100% | $2,750 | $169 | Allowed | |
Fundamental$50K Phidias Propfirm One-Time Payment (no activation fee) | $580$87 | $4,000 | $2,500 | 1.60:1 | EOD | None | None | 80% | $2,000 | $0 | Allowed | |
Premium$50K Phidias Propfirm One-Time Payment (no activation fee) | $723$108 | $4,000 | $2,500 | 1.60:1 | EOD | None | None | 100% | $2,000 | $0 | Allowed | |
Express to Live$50K Phidias Propfirm One-Time Payment (no activation fee) | $723$108 | $2,500 | $650 | 3.85:1 | Static | None | None | 80% | $2,000 | $0 | Allowed | |
Fundamental$100K Phidias Propfirm One-Time Payment (no activation fee) | $723$145 | $6,000 | $3,000 | 2.00:1 | EOD | None | None | 80% | $2,500 | $0 | Allowed | |
Fundamental$150K Phidias Propfirm One-Time Payment (no activation fee) | $863$173 | $9,000 | $4,500 | 2.00:1 | EOD | None | None | 80% | $2,750 | $0 | Allowed | |
Express to Live$100K Phidias Propfirm One-Time Payment (no activation fee) | $900$180 | $3,500 | $800 | 4.38:1 | Static | None | None | 80% | $3,000 | $0 | Allowed | |
Premium$100K Phidias Propfirm One-Time Payment (no activation fee) | $900$180 | $6,000 | $3,000 | 2.00:1 | EOD | None | None | 100% | $2,500 | $0 | Allowed | |
Premium$150K Phidias Propfirm One-Time Payment (no activation fee) | $1,123$225 | $9,000 | $4,500 | 2.00:1 | EOD | None | None | 100% | $2,750 | $0 | Allowed | |
Express to Live$150K Phidias Propfirm One-Time Payment (no activation fee) | $1,125$225 | $4,500 | $1,000 | 4.50:1 | Static | None | None | 80% | $4,500 | $0 | Allowed |
Every The5ers account
| Account | Price | Target | Max loss | Ratio | Drawdown | Daily limit | Consistency | Split | Max payout | Activation | News | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Day Trade$25K The5ers★ 4.7 | $59 | $1,500 | $1,000 | 1.50:1 | EOD | None | 40% | 80% | $1,250 | $0 | Allowed | |
Swing$25K The5ers★ 4.7 | $69 | $1,500 | $1,000 | 1.50:1 | EOD | None | 40% | 80% | $1,250 | $0 | Allowed | |
Day Trade$50K The5ers★ 4.7 | $100 | $3,000 | $2,000 | 1.50:1 | EOD | None | 40% | 80% | $1,500 | $0 | Allowed | |
Swing$50K The5ers★ 4.7 | $120 | $3,000 | $2,000 | 1.50:1 | EOD | None | 40% | 80% | $1,500 | $0 | Allowed |
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